It will be interesting going to the west coast of america soon and relating the concepts.

The first thing my son noticed is that the USA accepts a homeless problem that evn staunch (C)conservatives in this country would not accept so trivially.

From an outsiders point of view it seems that the fault is yours if you are less advantaged than others and then you should just be them. Regardless of whether you can or not. A bit like the folks who keep trying to work for Trump in its extreme case. And if you can' it's still your fault. In an equal classless society, that I believe the USA thinks it is, then everyone has an equal opportunity.

But - again from an outside persepctive - that's what it is.

Which is where it is similar though - [choice] - more advanced? - than the UK. People with money in the Uk think that everyone has an equal chance.

But they don't.

From my perspective

The Labour in the UK nowadays looks to redress a balance that, after Thatcher, the Blair governement didn't address. Not to go back to Keir Hardy in the 20's and start the mines again etc but to address some idea of fairness

The Liberals/Liberal Democrats sold their souls to the devil for the hope of changing things and failed. Got in bed with the wrong people and broke things.
As a Liberal (capital letter and lower) I think that's sad.

The Conservatives are the others. (UKIP to BNP irrelevant now)

There used to be a broad coalition of the middle in this country which was to be fair and reasonable - which is what you would expect from what is described as a 'liberal democracy'. And that people would pitch for that middle ground of everyone being ok.

But in the UK it is polarising more and more. And needs sorting.

Happily talk more on this :)