"Do any of the other members involved in this discussion think that this departure from the subject is anything other than a tactic to derail the thread?" You don't take part in discussions Ake - you post hate mail - Muslims, homosexuals -Liberals - members of this forum All targets for your vitriol Can you actually point out where you have ever taken part in an exchange of ideas rather than a vomit of vitriolic abuse? Your runnimg mate seems quite happy to discuss sport (if you can desctibe croquet as sport) so your own side appears to have abandoned you Jim Carroll
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