the other side is calling names - so i'm going to call names. i'm going to out-stupid the stupidest bastards in the world.

i'm not saying we will recreate jerusalem in england's green and pleasant land.

what i am saying is that our parents lived through periods of mass unemployment, and they taught most of us there was an intrinsic value in being someone that was useful enough to society to have gainful employment.

it wasn't going to be fulfilling, a dream come true - but it was going to feel better than being superfluous to society and living on what the rich allowed to trickle down.

membership of the commonmarket has entailed losing those jobs. we couldn't control it. the way we sustained fullish employment was subsidy. according to eu rules - that is unfair competition - despite the fact that all our eu friends are in deadly competition with us, and practice many forms of protectionism on the sly.

calling me names won't alter those facts. the out vote was a reaction from all those areas of our country where the commonmarket has caused mass unemployment with all its social problems.

now give us some tdea of how we would call self interested other countries to account - should we stay in the EU, which is what you and most uk politicians want......or you could just go back to name calling.