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GUEST,ottery Lyr Req: Dole Teifi (Welsh, from Fernhill) (12) RE: Lyr Req: Dole Teifi (Welsh, from Fernhill) 06 Sep 18


Thanks for the suggestion, Freddy. But it looks like it won't be necessary! Ceri Rhys Matthews from the band got back to me last night and sent the following email - also included were photos of the lyrics in a songbook:

"there are two versions of this song from cardiganshire we sing & i guess the one we recorded is an amalgam of the two. the tune we use is the north cardiganshire version as sung by thomas rowlands of lledrod, aberystwyth to a collector in the 1960s. the remainder of the words we sing come from south cardiganshire & were collected by j ffos davies in the 1920s. i'm ashamed to say i can't remember the name of the singer off hand"

Today, she also emailed:

"the other singer who sings a different version - the one i couldn't recall last night - is thomas herbert of tangaer, cribyn, near llambed. he had an amazing & unique repertoire, even among the richness of cardiganshire song. he called the song y bobl dwyllodrus - the deceitful people. we sing his version too. here is j ffos davies' sol-fah notation..." (Photos of a handwritten document were attached)

Thanks for your comment, Jim. It encouraged me to just take the most straightforward solution and contact Fernhill - without it, I'd have been too shy to take the step.


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