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beardedbruce BS: climate crisis - how do we go from here? (319* d) RE: climate crisis - how do we go from here? 02 Oct 19


Fine, Mr. Shaw.

Metabolises nickel, producing methane as a wast product. His comment is still valid


As the present "consensus is that the MODELS show that man-made effects are in control, perhaps you will consider that the MODEL is not as perfect as you seem to think.

The climate MODELS were run from 10 years to the present, to predict the actual temperature change. 95% of then were GREATER than the actual temperature change, as measured.
Just coincidence that the SOLAR FLUX has been trending DOWNWARD at
the time in question. Perhaps one might consider that the 10.7 cm solar flux AND IT'S EFFECT ON CLIMATE has NOT been modeled correctly, since the CO2 numbers can be made to fudge the formulas.

Then you could consider the changes over recent time ( decade or so) in both the Martian icecap and the Red Spot on Jupiter, both dependent of solar flux and NOT on man-made CO2 production.

The likelihood that man CAN reverse the climate change as seen is not as high as you seem to think. So efforts to reduce CO2 WHILE NOT TAKING THE NEEDED STEPS to move populations and deal with the EFFECTS of climate change is both a misuse of resources better spent saving lives, and a political powergrab.

As I stated, and SRS lied about, I do believe in climate change- I just do not think that the present efforts are of any use other than to push the real problem down the road, so that there is less time to deal with the effect of climate change, and a FAR greater loss of life.


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