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beardedbruce BS: The New Non Voting America (98* d) RE: BS: The New Non Voting America 11 Apr 21


"Some states are putting additional layers in the ID process that complicate it by requiring documents that many poor & rural voters find complex & difficult to obtain."

I agree, and that is wrong. Now why how is Georgia any different from other states, that also require identification? It seems that the requirement for ID on ABSENTEE ballots is the problem- WHY?



"The "..the APPEARENCE of improper votes?" To whom, exactly?:

How about more than 25% of the voters?
I stated "How about codifying in the law actually LOOKING at complaints of election fraud by a NEUTRAL group? Telling someone who questions the vote counts that there is no need to investigate since it did not happen is like the KKK saying there were no lynchings."

If the BALLOTS are in question, is a recount of those ballots meaningful? TELLING us that there were no invalid ballots when there is no serious look at the complaints is just like accepting the KKK at it's word.



"The real bottom line is that actual provable fraud in voting is very rare "

Possibly, but without an actual investigation how would you know? The complaint on the part of the conservatives is that very few issues were addressed, just a RECOUNT of ballots that were being questioned as valid. NO attempt to verify that the ballots counted were valid at all, just a recount.


The laws in Georgia are an attempt to insure that BALLOTS COUNTED ARE VALID-

Why does this make them Racist? Who is it that objects to only having valid votes count?


"I want a TOTAL end to Gerrymandering.. "


"and an end to the electoral college nonsense. The vote for president and V.P. is national, and should be by a majority of the total country, not a game to win 4-5 key states. That's what "One man, one vote" should mean."

Except without the Electorial College, the election would be settled by the votes in a few states. CA, TX, NY, PA and such

The present system biases away from one person/one vote in small states, then gives states like CA that have a large undocumented population a bonus. The Census is counting people to determine the representation- which gives the number of EC votes- AND THE CENSUS DOES NOT ASK ABOUT CITIZENSHIP!

So CA gets an extra 4 million plus population worth of representatives.

Fix that and I will agree with "One Citizen, ONE Vote" and direct vote- when ALL STATES have the SAME standards imposed.

Then candidates only need to go to 4-6 states and the election will be over.

I would prefer to see a modification of the states giving electorial votes by percentage of votes within the states- WHICH IS LEGAL NOW for states to do, without changes to the constitution. If a candidate get 30 % of the popular vote have them get 30% of the EC vote for that state. AS LONG AS ALL STATES do this, it is fair. But if some give ALL the votes to a winner who get 51% this cannot work.


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