Many thanks to you in particular Bob. I think we can probably source "Villikins and his Dinah" over here in the UK. I just need to keep hoping about the other 2 songs! Since my wife really wants the tunes for the first two for some drama she is into (me, I don't thesp) I think she will probably adapt the tune of Shallo Brown for the second song.

Kind of funny to think that if you drove by land from Botany Bay to Sydney you'd probably drive past the house in Australia where I lived when I was 3 (Father on colonial duties...just jokin!) at 1560 Pacific Highway, Wahroonga. Then we moved round the corner to, if my memory serves me, Fox Valley Drive. We used to hire a cabin cruiser on a river or estuary a few miles south, and maybe that was "Botany Bay" itself. I don't know the spelling but the pronunciation was "Browra Falls". Speaking of spelling, we got caught by the Australian sense of humour naming our second house (I used to still have the nameplate). My father asked a local scholar what the aborigine for "Three Bridges" would be ('cos there were three of us and our surname was Bridge). I guess the scholar spotted a pompous pommie, 'cos he said "Kalim Dauwa" (phonetic spelling again). "Great house name", we said. Months later we found out it meant the three rotting logs over the dried up gully. Not much call for bridges in central Australia. Came back to UK when I was 6. Ccan you direct me to contact point for ROn Edwards - Email snailmail or landline. My EMail is Mclaw@btinternet.com. Cheers.

Roger in Baltimore: I had done a search before posting, and checked all the "Botany Bay" references. Just so no-one thinks I was wasting their time....