never said don't sing, just that it isn't enough to JUST sing.

A good friend just mentioned to me that Ewan McColl once said that the message is not enough - it has to be good music as well.

I believe that a message in good music will go on for years after we have left the stage. There's plenty of it still around today.

I am a rebel in a large bureaucracy - tend not to tow the party line -- but if I have learned anything - it;s easier to change things from the inside out and with a positive attitude and not always a fight.

Chance -- your group sounds really interesting. Keep me informed of what 's happening with you -- and let me know where you are playing -- of course I'm in the big bad NYC, so I don't know when I would hear you -- but keep me informed and I will send out minions -- ok, I'll let others near you know.

and to the rest of you out there -- the NY Pinewoods has listing of all kinds of venues in and around NYC, NJ, upstate NY and CT -- none affiliated with the club but included for informational purposes -- I say this not to praise pinewoods, but to point performers in the direction of possible performances.

LOL joy