We can all come up with our own solutions and we can all come up with the questions of why did this happen or how could this happen. I still say what I said in my first post in this thread. We must teach ourselves to learn to love and respect ourselves, enough so that a woman in such a situation can love and respect herself enough to leave. Or a man can love and respect another person and treat her/him differently. It is all a matter that women and children are not property, not chattel. When I treat myself with respect other people treat me with respect. when I give myself love, other people can see that I am worth loving. I dont know if I am making any sense to anyone. I know what I am trying to say, I'm just not sure it is coming out right.

Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"