could find nothing at http://www.mirabilis.com except an offer to start a discussion group. Maybe the folk police at this site are going to have to open up a bit if it is really not possible to talk with performers of other genre on other sites. When i read some of the folk (what is/ what isn't) threads i keep remembering a quote from Pete Seeger where he said that such discussions missed the point. To him it was more a question of is it a good song or isn't it. I would still like to find discussion groups like this discussing other styles of music. Any help greatly appreciated. I've been through all of mudcat's links. {many dead ends need to be removed or updated :) }