Agreed, agreed. Perhaps the problem is that anarchism is not usually pointed out, except by Johnny Rotten, and Johnny Rotten doesn't speak (or think) for all that many people. But that doesn't mean that anarchist principles aren't out there. I think this is particularly true of folk music (this is, like, a discussion about folk music, right?). When we sing 'before I'd be a slave I'll be buried in my grave' or any of its ten thousand synonymous lyrics, what are we asking for? Representative democracy in a limited capitalist system of free enterprise with a partial safety net for the poor? Is that it? Because based on the lyrics alone, it sounds like we want the whole schmeer. Admittedly, some songs are very movement-specific, but a lot of political folk music is just saying we shall overcome, and not saying *what* we shall overcome. I would say that basically that's an anarchist sentiment, no matter who its coming from or what its called. Yeah, LEJ, a lot of anarchists are undiscliplined and uninformed. A lot more are so informed and discliplined that they can't do anything but talk your ear off...probably just as bad...