Hi Kat, now that is scary, its something I would never have known about if it wasn't for the 'Cat, sounds like someone has been reading Margaret Atwood and wants to try it. Lets just hope they don't get a leader as charismatic as JFK or Hitler.

I understand why you want to distinguish between Clinton and Milosovic, but, I don't know, perhaps I'm just older and more cynical. From his background, I think Milosovic would support Albanians 100% against the Serbs if he thought there was more political milage in it; and everything I have seen and heard suggests to me that Clinton would change his spots as easily and quickly. That's not intended as an attack on Clinton, I think it is "normal" behaviour for the sort of person who seeks power. Just to get back to folk, the Vicar of Bray could have been either of them.

As to your local goons, I wish you and your organisations luck, I agree education is the only way, but I'm not at all sure about the rationalisation that their behaviour (the goons that is) is based on fear. As I said somewhere else it is normal human behaviour to laugh at things you fear, or to to try and remove them from your area of influence, but I'm not at all sure it is valid to reverse the causal link in this way.

Best of luck anyway.

Pete M