jimmyt-If cheering people were all it took to make a leader good, Saddam would have had Bush and Blair beat by a long shot. His people cheered him whenever he wanted, and no one ever said a word against him ( or at least not more than once). I do not mean to state that Bush and Blair are using the same means of coercion, or intend to, but I don't know if the Iraqis realize that they don't have to cheer if they don't want to. If your only experience was in a police state, and someone invaded with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, you'd cheer too.