Congratulate away ard... I don't think you will find anyone (and certainly not from me I hope) objecting to credit given like that...

Flintoff certainly has looked good a couple of times and it is possible that he will prove to be one of our great all rounders. I'd still like to see what happens against Austrailia (in spite of our dissagreements above, I do believe they are the world leaders at the moment) before getting too carried away.

Wichever way this result goes, I think this England side does look promising and I'd back the likes of Flintoff and Anderson to come through and of course we do have some injured bolwers too.

I really think some of the England problem at times is that people don't back thier ability enough, leading to things like famous England batting collapses.

Comparing England to SA, we could pick out for example that we don't (yet) have a bowler of the class of Pollock (300 at around 20 surely puts you at "world class" rather than "just a good test bowler"). It would also be true on the bowling side of things to say we don't have a Shane Warne (nor do SA BTW)...

It may even be along while coming but rightly or wrongly, I do believe that with what we have, we can play as a team and probably make Australia work hard, even beat them at times if heads don't drop.

Just my ramblings...