"See, the whole point of the pro-life movement is that we don't see it that way. We see TWO lives in a pregnancy. (John Hardly)"

"Funny how the pro-life movement never holds the man accountable or even is an issue. They want the man to be able to decide -- but not to be held responsible for the choice. All authority, no responsibility."

NicoleC,

The quote of mine that you pulled was addressed directly at the comparison between abortion and amputation raised by Clint. It was not about responsibility.

Of course I understand that a man is in the pregnancy equation. And at least every pro-life person I know holds the man equally morally responsible for the pregnancy as well as anything related to it (the abortion) ...if he had a say in it.

I thought it was women who did not want men in the equation where abortion is concerned. Now I really am confused.

Clint,

I have no problem with your entire last post, though I disagree with your conclusion about capital punishment. I understand you. I think your view is consistant. I have other reasons for believing in capital punishment.

But what I was asking you is if you believe that abortion is the taking of a human life. At any point in the term?

That's why I said what I did in the above quote that NicoleC abused. Since you compared the "badness" of abortion to the "badness" of amputation, I was commenting that, to me, a major difference between abortion and amputation is that abortion IS the removal of another life -- not the removal of a leg.