I've no problem in declaring it right, McGrath. I'd hate you to think I was mealy-mouthed.

...in the process of going to war the government lied even more than governmments normally lie... Can't argue with that, and I believe governments (specially this government) lie a lot. And if WMD were the government's only casus belli then I'd find it difficult to defend my views. But I think the world is a better place with Saddam no longer a tyrant, and that that is justification enough.

I don't forget the thousands of Iraqis whom Saddam killed or caused to be killed, unlike your endearingly naïve chums from whom you quote extensively above.