Thanks, Roger. I didn't realize the significance of white vans in the UK until I mentioned the naming a group of white vans thread to Bill Sables. Here in the US, a pet peeve is SUV's (sport utility vehicles). They tend to be bullies on the road & drive over the lines, thoroughly intimidating (&, thereby, enraging) those of us driving small, fuel-efficient vehicles. Oh for a time & place when all would be safe & considerate on the roads!bbc (venting)