Barry, I guess what I'm trying to say is that music at the beginning of the 19th century was quite different from music at the start of the 20th. Anyone we could talk to about it got their experience pretty late in the game, after the Victorian period in music, the advent of cylinder recordings, the barbershop era, etc. I should think we'd want to be cautious about assuming that their experience is representative of the experience during the development of the shanty in the earlier days.