You're more than welcome, Joe. I grew up in Milton, near Jansville, but have been in the West (U.S. and Canada) since 1955. No relation to Art Thieme, though. Yes, I've been a folk singer (not a particularly good one... but an enthusiastic one) for years. First with old standby folk songs and while in British Columbia I teamed with another bloke, called ourselves The Reivers, and began doing only Irish and Scottish music. I'm an amature historian, so began digging into the background of these songs and trying to learn as much as I can about the history and geography of the songs. "This Old Man" was part of my early singing experience. And, yes, I would qualify as one of the "old guys" who like to tell groaners.

Kat, my apologies. The only reason I singled out you and Joe was that I was trying to make a little play on words to end the post with, and the two of you had names that I could use that way (plus your names were familiar and you both had posted to this thread). I meant no offense in any way.

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