I am refering to the traveler types one sees by roadsides and on the tube trains here in London as very definitely Romanian,and I also am led to believe are real Romanies..

I think you will find that most of the Irish travelers in London will claim to be of Romany descent.

I am positive all gypsies,Romanies,Travellers (i'm not talking about hippies) whatever they wish to call themselves arent bad,but the ones found in London are it seems universaly gypsies without pride or integrity whether they be Eastern European or Irish or how else can one explain their conduct.

I am myself Irish by Descent and I think you will find the Irish themselves have gained from bitter experience a very poor opinion of their traveler folk. Compared to what many would call them "Primitives" is polite,after all what else do you call people who lack all learning but a cunning desire to steal their way through life.

Amos have you given your full name(I think not)So thank you for your suggestion but I would draw your attention to throwing stones in glass houses.

TY