If it helps, kat, I never even/heard saw the n word until I read Huck Finn in the 6th grade. I was not in any way saying that I saw no harm in hurtful words, words can be terribly hurtful and scarring, I was merely throwing in with ddw about the absurd legths to which PC tends to reach. In my opinion, which I see I did not make clear earlier, is that there is only one RACE of man. We are all of us homo sapiens sapiens regardless of what decorative feature one sports. I understand your stance entirely, my own spouse is of a mixed Anglo-Asian background, but a good mixing just makes beautiful children - you should see my son. K'tildas