Works for me too Helen... thanks...

But even going there is distracting to me... I am indeed talking about confidence disrupting comments... the kind that are meerly ment to disrupt and be disconcerting... I guess that Clinton is on to my trip when he chooses words like maturity and 'good lines'... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it, and I don't feel compelled to start... My point being that that style of banter and 'humour' is a socially maintained dis-ease, is distructive to others, and benefits noone but the boorish. I have yet to see anyone do it and not look stupid. By my way of thinking, only the supportive remark, the confidence instilling positivity... has value in bringing more people into their own particular brilliance. Why settle for anything less... ttr