looks like you still have a long way to go thomas on dodging the snide and sleazy backhander - some people and it sounds like you are one of em just don't know when to move on or turn a blind eye - i associate with a very large crowd of singers and musicians and have yet to find them difficult except when met with mediocre singers who think they are the bees knees - some people just don't take the hint and thats the only time i have seen them lose patience and then only reluctantly