When does the BS ever get too tawdry around here Bill? We were running a thread on farts there not too long ago and getting drunks out from under porches, which you willingly participated in. I have a theory about this place and it goes like this. This place is like High School. We have people like yourself who try to foist a sort of moral code on the rest of us even though you've been around here for a short time. If this thread had been started by one of the resident hero's like catspaw eg, then everyone would be posting with gusto just to fit in. So you take exception to my post, take a poke, because your new and you don't know me, so you have a go. There's no nice way to say "fuck you Bill", so I won't try.