You fellows have made a wrong assumption. You seriously believe that I'd talk down or treat someone like a moron-even if they were a card carrying, dues paying, member of The Moron club. No I have not nor would I. I quite well understand there is no gain in doing that. One presents his case & if it falls on deaf ears, so be it.

jimmyt, five posts with the same questions is a bit redundent. In your apology at 3:00 you blamed it on the wine. I accepted said apology, then you started again. You opened the door Dear Heart.

Now if you will permit me, I shall fold my tent & be off. Two words I shall never utter again in this lifetime: Moron & armpits.