Thanks Claymore... it really puts a human face on the issue for me. Yeah, plenty of denial... like there isn't any across these 50 states right now... Seems the President made a effort, and it was appreciated... I wish he would make some more... I could respect him a lot more if he had a bit more of the 'heroic' in him... Actually... make that 'a lot' more will you? Now Napoleon was a good example... ttr