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Thread #65087   Message #1068985
Posted By: GUEST
10-Dec-03 - 12:12 AM
Thread Name: Why is misogyny so prevalent in trad?
Subject: RE: Why is misogyny so prevalent in trad?
Misogyny isn't particularly prevalent in traditional music, at least not in the oldest Anglo-Appalachian folk ballads. Looking through part I of FOLK SONGS FROM THE WEST VIRGINIA HILLS by Patrick Gainer (1975), I find that, of the fifty songs listed, only two seem truly misogynist (DANDOO, Child #277, and THE FARMER'S WIFE AND THE DEVIL, Child #278). I counted 27 ballads that have a clearly identifiable villian (or villians). In 11, the villian(s) were male. In 11, the villian(s) were female. In five, there were both males and females in the wrong.
The songs with male villians included THE DEVIL'S QUESTIONS (CHILD #1), THE SIX KING'S DAUGHTERS (#4), THE BRIDE'S MURDER (#11), THE FATHER'S MURDER (#13), FAIR FLOWERS IN THE VALLEY (#14), BOLAKIN (#93), THE BANKS OF YORROW (#214), THE HOUSE CARPENTER'S WIFE (#243), HENRY MARTIN (#250), GOLDEN WILLOW TREE(#286), and THE SOLDIER AND THE MAID(#299). There were male villians who wronged other males (GOLDEN WILLOW TREE)and males who wronged females (THE SOLDIER AND THE MAID). There were, similarly, females who wronged other females (THE SISTER'S MURDER, #10) and others who wronged men (JOHNNY RANDALL, #12). The heroine of THE SIX KING'S DAUGHTERS and the villianess of YOUNG HENEREE, #68, physically over-power and kill their male nemeses. For every BARBARA ALLEN, there's a LORD LOVEL.
The old singers didn't hate women. Half of them WERE women. The other half were sons of women, husbands of women, and fathers of women. There were undoubtly a few he-man woman-haters around, but they certainly didn't dominate the genre.