Richard Perle: "It's important to recognize that Iraq is a country with an enormously talented people, and that is well understood by the rest of the Arab world. So there is real concern when the rest of the Arab world observes suffering in Iraq, which is now widely attributed, I think wrongly, to the embargo that's been in effect for many years. That is very different from believing that the Arab world supports Saddam Hussein, or that it would not welcome the elimination of Saddam Hussein's regime. I think there would be dancing in the streets if Saddam were removed from power, and that reaction of the Iraqi people would be reflected in the attitude of the Arab world, generally. So the notion that if we go after Iraq we are somehow going to advance in the direction of a war against Islam that will turn out to be far worse for us, I think is really quite mistaken. ..."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/perle.html

Last night's Charlie Rose had both Perle and Frum on as his guests. I didn't listen to the whole show- I couldn't take the atmosphere. Both came off as quite unpleasant people.