I met Jack Elliot when he came to UK which must have been the late 50's: he seemed to be acting out the roll of an urban cowboy all right. Good though. I first heard Woody later when Melodisc released the Stinson LP's; although Woody is supposed to have said about Jack "he sounds more like me than I do", I don't think there's a great deal of similarity. Rather like saying Woody sounds like the Carter family! I heard Dylan later; I suppose I'd grown up a bit then and I couldn't be bothered with all the silly hype and adulation. I think he had a series of idols, the first being Elvis: perhaps it would have been better had he stayed there. Yes Dylan certainly sounds very much like Jack Elliot to me. Perhaps it's the same middle class urban background. Dr John