Mogadishu ring any bells here? When the objective is ill-defined, men and women get killed. I do not subscribe to the notion that soldiers/marines are expendable items simply because they entered the armed forces. And sending troops in to establish 'peace' is utter crap. Soldiers are trained to kill and make peace that way. And since when are the Americans the cops of the world? No, think it through first. Then act. Protecting one's citizens and embassies is good. Establishing democracies for others?--I ain't so sure about that.