CarolC,

I didn't tell you what to do. I said "please." Where I come from that counts as a request.

However, you saying "don't tell me what to do" is, er, telling me what to do. See the difference?

If you agree that the Palestinians in Israel aren't all refugees, and that Jordan is a Palestinian Arab state, then how can you refer to the refugees as "a whole people?" You are being inconsistent.

You're also ignoring history again. In 1947, the UN's UNSCOP committee partitioned the remainder of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, AFTER Jordan was already granted to the Arabs. The Jews accepted this, and the Arabs immediately went to war. It was the Arabs who began the war, and they never denied it. The following is a quote from Jamal Husseini, the Arab Higher Committee's spokesman, to the UN Security Council on April 16, 1948. You will note that it's full sentences with no paraphrasing by me or anyone else:

"The representative of the Jewish Agency told us yesterday that they were not the attackers, that the Arabs had begun the fighting. We did not deny this. We told the whole world that we were going to fight."

Israel had 140,000 armed forces in the 1948 war, their entire military-age population. Together, Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq sent 670,000 troops, and the Palestinian Arabs still in Israel had 50,000. This was not a Jewish war of aggression!

You also forget that it was Jordan that annexed the West Bank after the 1948 war, not Israel. The land granted to the Arabs by the partition plan was largely absorbed into Jordan, where it did the Palestinian Arabs no good. Indeed, shortly thereafter, seeing the PLO as a rival that would surely take over Jordan, King Hussein expelled Arafat and his people.

The 1967 war, as you said, had the first shots fired by Israel at the Egyptians, but the Syrians and Jordanians attacked Israel. All three countries had been saying for months that they would attack and destroy Israel soon. The 1973 war, which pro-Palestinian argument junkies rarely mention, was a pure war of agression against Israel by the Arabs of ten countries (principally again Egypt, Jordan, Syria, but also Iraq, the Saudis and many others). If you want to play the "who was attacked more" game you will lose, unless you resort to yelling out distortons and lies.

Your saying "I'll yell if I want to," your telling Galbraith that Hitler would be proud, and many other of your actions here convince me that you're not interested in reasonable discussion of this issue.