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Thread #67315   Message #1132258
Posted By: CarolC
09-Mar-04 - 02:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: Anti-Semitism & The Left
Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Semitism & The Left
Guest, C-watch, nerd and I were talking about my behavior in this thread. And my behavior toward other posters to this thread.

Re: the rest of your post, I have not ever said that the two situation are quantitatively similar. But qualitatively, there are similarities.

I don't know what dictionary you use, but my dictionary (Webster's) defines "genocide" as follows:

the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

The difference of that one word, destruction rather than extermination is important for understanding my use of the word in any context.

What I said in that other thread, and which you not only took out of context, you very cleverly linked to a different post of mine in that thread, maybe so people wouldn't see the entire context in which that statement of mine was made, was this (and it was in response to someone else's use of the term "mass murder" to describe what suicide bombers are doing to children in Israel):

Although if you want to use the term "mass murder" to describe what the suicide bombers do to innocent Israeli children, then by comparison, what the Israeli soldiers and settlers are doing to innocent Palestinians must be described as GENOCIDE.

It would be useful to keep in mind that the numbers of Israelis killed by Palestinians is approximately one third of the number of Palestinians killed by Israelis.

Numbers of Israelis killed by Palestinians since 2000:

846

134 of these were minors under the age of 18


Numbers of Palestinians killed by Israelis since 2000:

2,434

846 of these were minors under the age of 18

At any rate, it is not my opinion that the government of Israel or any other Israelis are committing genocide against the Palestinians. If they do succeed in removing all of the Palestinians from Israel and the Occupied Territories, then they will be guilty of ethnic cleansing.