Dianavan, I think it's a bit of a lowball to characterize Jewish concerns as a feeling that they've been dumped on. Sure there are other reasons for the establishment of Israel than the most important ones. There are other reasons for everything, but it doesn't negate the good, it's just mixed.

   I've decided for myself that I really only support human rights to a limited extent. Driving cars results in human rights violations, in that accidents will undeniably happen, and individual human suffering will be caused, no matter what we do. I'd like it to improve, but for now I live with it. Our jury system results in human rights violations, and since this is known, I draw the line at the death penalty. But until I know a better way to do things without introducing a new set of flaws I guess I'm complicit and a good German in this ongoing abuse. Hitler would be proud of me. I'm a Nazi.

   I'm not Jewish, or especially religious, but if Jews don't mind, Jewish culture is also partly my culture, and Israel is also a democracy. I don't fully support the U.S. in it's current form, but that's the trouble with democracy. I'm still rooting for it to do better.

I don't have to worry about defending Israel and it would be pretty easy for me to criticize in an unbalanced idealistic manner, but who would it serve, but me? People without children are always better and more committed parents than us flawed cretins who have them. The obvious solution is that only childless people should have children.