Nerd, a couple of times you've given the impression that there was a separate quibble I had with CarolC about the tone of her remarks about who supports human rights. I was talking about her comment to you though, which I and I most likely everyone but ostensibly CarolC herself heard the same tone of insult in.

Again I disagree with CarolC. I follow these sorts of discussions precisely for the purpose of getting a sense of what people are on about, rather than as a source of history and statistics. She seems to find my line of interest "unproductive"--and I hers. In fact, I'm not sure how much I disagree with her general point, but do know I quite disagree with the manner of stating it.
   
   I could certainly be wrong in my perception of her slant on things. Could easily be quite wrong. But if one hopes to speak for a reason, wouldn't it be productive to take feedback on how one sounds? or why people are put off? I'd think so, if one were serious about speaking for something beyond themselves. I think I'd leave off facile pseudo-ironies about Hitler and the holocaust and simply find another way of stating the case. What harm would that do?