Ahhhh, ex*cluse* yerself if you like but I did put forth a plan with components that are not exactly flaming commie liberal. The Saudi Plan is still a viable framework. Oh, you don't like Saudis? Well, okay, lets call it the Mitchell Plan since it was also introduced by this Senator (Congressman?)..... Purdy much the same plan...

Oh, sure you can find components within the plan to argue over but there has never been a peace (or no war) plan than ended up too danged complicated in its general framework. They all purdy much are contracts were parties agree to quit blowing each other in exchange for_______________,________________ and_____________.

See, the problems is that folks first must see that blowing each other up is probably not going to improve the chances of peace. Most of the time that you can't get folks to this point is because the stronger party isn't quite ready to stop stealing the other parties stuff.

Bobert