Harpgirl and Guest: Read the sentence again:

"This is all just helping me (and maybe hopefully others) to think around this subject."

I repeat: I am not moralizing or judging what is right and wrong. There is NO moralizing or judging in the above statement. "Helping others to think around this subject" means just that. It became apparent from the number of people who posted to this thread, just how many people did want to think around the subject: tell of their experiences, express their views, exchange their views, look at things from another person's perspective. From such an exchange (on whatever subject), an individual may or may not change their viewpoint. Such an exchange of views can serve to clarify and confirm their existing view. All of this is a good thing and at the end of the day we can agree to differ.

Harpgirl, you missed out the word "apparently" when you quoted me. I did not say "learned nothing" I said "apparently learned nothing." The addition of that word makes a world of difference to the meaning. "Apparently" means "as it appears to me." It is not a dictatorial statement or judgment. It is my viewpoint, which is no more or less valid than anybody else's.

As I just said, at the end of the day we can agree to differ.