What Dylan's doing may or may not be right, but at least everyone know who he is. I don't feel I've contributed to the downfall of western civilization because I don't use my money to purchase from VS. Nor have I seen the ad--the blue clicky gave me a chopped up version of it. I would suggest, again, that people who disagree with the subliminal or in-yer-face stuff simply write the company and tell it they are losing a customer. To guote one of the subjects of this thread, "Money doesn't speak, it swears." What should be of greater concern is the dollar figure one of the guests (3:42 pm) quoted above. Three and a half billion dollars is lots of money. So, maybe all the perverts aren't dirty old men. Got to be some gals out there wearing the stuff. Well, them and penguins, huh?