I'm not going to get into a pissing contest on the "rules," but I do want to respond to something that Jeannie said. Some ten years ago, I was invited to join a fledgling bussiness association. It was only four months old and in it's infancy, all it's members were women. I attended a few meetings and decided that the concept was sound and I committed myself to join. The first thing I did was bring in 7 men friends of mine. Within a year we were solid, fun, active, and as a business referral networking group, we were very successful.

I'd only been a member a few months when a couple of the founding ladies mentioned to me, quite separate of each other, that they were VERY glad when men started joining the group, as an "all wimmen" group usually degenerated to everything except business.

I suspect that the very same kind of problem would exist with an all mens group! CHEERS, Bob