Joe - thanks for trying to help, but this seems to be one of the rare cases where the Mudcat is speechless! (More or less.) Still, even without knowing who wrote them they're both great songs. Could 'Aunt Clara' be classified as music hall? 'Mary Alice' must surely be much more recent - the 70s at the earliest, I'd think.
Another problem: Does the fact that we can't find out the authors make these songs traditional? :-))