Personal aside: At this moment, I don't like SUV's or minivans either one. Why? Because between the two of them they've pushed the full-sized van almost off the market. Private individuals simply don't buy them anymore. Businesses still buy them, but they drive them for a zillion miles a year. That makes it awfully difficult for folks like me, who need a full-sized van to haul our pottery around, to find a good late-model low-mileage used one.

By the way, did you know that Dodge no longer even makes a full-sized van? The Ram van was discontinued after last year. The replacement, the Sprinter, is really a Mercedez product. It has been sold in the States for a couple of years with a Freightliner nameplate but is now being sold with a Dodge nameplate as well.

Bruce