I, and the authors being cited in these articles, aren't referring to people the size of a sofa bed.

We are talking about people who are overweight, and most of the people I know who are, are pretty meticulous with both their hygiene and dress, because of the negative stereotypes about overweight people being big, fat slobs (as I believe Little Hawk's and Martin Gibson's posts are obvious proof).

I am interested in two aspects of this, as I stated in the other thread. The first, is medical concern for two relatives, both women, who have had the stomach stapling surgery, which I remain extremely sceptical about. So I have a personal interest in the medical truth. And this wouldn't be the first time the medical establishment got it wrong, by any means.

The second is the fact I believe the prejudices and discrimination against overweight people is directly largely at women, and women of color in particular. I work with a lot of overweight teen girls everyday, and I see how relentless the bullying and ostracization of them is.

And Martin Gibson, since Brad Pitt is considered obese according the BMI, I think your statement that only fat people want the medical evidence to be wrong, to be a demonstration of your blinding prejudices and pig-headed stuborness to maintain them, and certainly not a well informed opinion.