"A few bad apples" - let's hope so. But some of those bad apples are higher up in the system than others. And when the stories about what has been going on at Guantanamo Bay are put into the picture, it looks as if soem of the bad apples who collude in the abuse of prisoners are very high up in the system indeed.

Just expressing shock and horror when the facts come to light isn't good enough - that can just be part of damage limitation and making sure the damage stays well away from the person protesting.

My feeling is that the presumption of innocence, until proved guilty, is right, for the people directly accused of being involved. But once it has been proved that the abuse has taken place, people at all points higher up the chain of command should be presumed guilty, unless they can demonstrate that they did all that could reasonably be required to prevent and to uncover these kinds of abuses. Being in command should imply that. That's what "the buck stops here" means.