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Thread #69284   Message #1179309
Posted By: Jim McCallan
06-May-04 - 07:48 AM
Thread Name: BS: American Soldiers Torturing Iraqis
Subject: RE: BS: American Soldiers Torturing Iraqis
"and I still do think what the Americans have done is small in comparison to their enemies's deeds"

But what, in actual fact have 'their enemies' done, Wolfgang?
Surely Saddam Hussein's regime is not their enemy any more?

We are in danger here, of confusing issues, and of tarring everybody with the Saddam Hussein brush.
There is a high probability that many Iraqis were not 'the enemy' before the Fallujah debacle.
There is also the high probability that the majority of those 10, 000 or so, Iraqis that have been killed, thus far, were not combatants; to assume otherwise would be to credit Al Qaeda, or whoever, with quite a frightening membership.

No, Wolfgang, after Saddam got removed, the sheet looked basically clean for the Americans (as far as the majority of Iraqis were concerned, anyway). There was dancing in the streets (to bring a musical bent to the conversation...), and everybody was going on about 'Hearts & Minds'. The opinion polls looked favourable, and people were talking about how free the Iraqis were. Even the Karbala bomb blast in March was testement to that; they wouldn't have had the freedom to celebrate the Holy Festival, under Saddam. But they wouldn't have had the freedom to bomb it, neither, under Saddam.

I agree that "In a big army, being in a nasty fight, bad things will happen now and then", but I think it is time to put to bed the notion that these people are responsible, or that the amount of them that do innocently suffer, should in any way pay for the sins of its' own former torturer.
Can we stop using 'what Saddam did' as a justifying stick to beat these people with?

Jim