"Anyway, the term was " liar and a fraud as well as a murderous, double-faced son of a bitch. " Does any of this NOT apply to Clinton? " --bb

"Murderous," I think does not apply.

"Liar and a fraud" applys to some degree to all our presidents. I believe George Washington padded his expense accounts.

And there are different degrees of lying: I was raised in the old school, where a decent man does not mention the woman's name in a case such as this.

But if it all should apply to Clinton, plus arson and sabbath-breaking, that does not excuse Bush's actions.

clint