"We are facing an enemy like we have never known", Dougie?

That could have also come from the mouth of the average Iraqi man-on-the-street... You're only looking at whaqt is going down from your perspective. That's why wars happen in the first place. And I might add that that is why most wars are lost... When we loose the ability to at least make an effort to see things the ways others do, then we really loose the strength and wisdom to effect the changes that can bring folks into our perspective.

Which leads me to DonM... Sure, I fully understand where you are coming from and, like you, can walk away from a debate... I thought the "bite me" response was a tad childish on yer part but, what the hey, also gave me a chuckle... And as fir being a musican, I purhased my D-18 *new* in 1968 and have the certificate from Martin in my safety deposit box.... I had been playin' folk music for several years when I made that *biggie* purchase...

Peace

Bobert