my footprint was 2.6, I think being vegetarian probably contributed to that. and there's always someone else in a car with me, because I'm one of those ones that gets lifts! jennyo, what would I do without you and your car? thanks for all those lifts home from sessions.

There are these amazing, electric, or gas or whatever run cars, so I've heard. you also hear rumours about large corporations keeping the hydro car under lock and key until all the petrol has been used up on the gas guzzlers.

but realistically, at present who can afford an eco-car? yes, I've lived in India without cars, washing machines or an electric toothbrush. somehow I survived. but i need a train or bus to get to work on, and i'm lucky enough to live close to all that.

Its commendable to make personal efforts - but the real, effective changes will happen when different politicians get in, and make the major stuctural and environmental planning thats needed.

whats the point in getting stuck into someone and then zooming off on your motorbike?

ps

that song's brilliant jennyo - and so right for this thread!