I just tried again...nothing. Just th Mudcat logo and the click here to exit link. Do I have to be java enabled (on his piece of s**t webtv thing, I'm not). I want to chat!!! I was so happy that I would be able to when we got webtv, because I can't do t from work, where I usually post, which is foolhardy enough in this age of internet spying....I'm pouting.