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Thread #70236   Message #1199075
Posted By: Teribus
03-Jun-04 - 06:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: 60 Minutes Shows US Casualty Pics...
Subject: RE: BS: 60 Minutes Shows US Casualty Pics...
Amos - 02 Jun 04 - 01:29 PM

OK, Amos, what is specious and inaccurate - your contention that the coalition went into Iraq to murder civilians - that is for a start.

"The notion that one despises premeditated murder of civilians by heavy weapons means that one likes a dictator is pathetically illogical."

That was not the "notion" being put forward for the slightest second, and you damn well know it. If the US led coalition had not acted as they did, I would venture it pretty safe to say that Saddam Hussein would still be in power in Iraq. Therefore it is perfectly logical to state that if you opposed action being taken to remove Saddam from power you tacitally have no problem with leaving the man, and his regime, in place. Please come back and tell me that the UN would have done something about the situation - I could do with a good laugh. By March 2003, Saddam had been running circles round the UN, politically and economically for the best part of 12 years, and thought he would continue to do so for many more to come.

Oh, and Bobert, on that man's batting average over 120,000 Iraqi's would now be dead. He would be pressuring the UN to lift sanctions, aided and abetted by France and Russia, and once lifted it would be back to business as usual, same aims and ambitions as pre-1990. My opinion - yes certainly, but it is considered, and history would tend to support it. Your opinion, that if we had left things alone all would have been well is at best laughable.

Your contention Bobert that under Gore 9/11 would just have been another day - the mission was dreamt up during Clinton's Presidency, planned during Clinton's Presidency and executed just nine months into the Bush Presidency. Are you seriously trying to say that it would have been called off if Gore had been elected - you are talking rubbish.

On the DPB, what more would Gore have done given the same briefing - and it would have been the same briefing, the same people would have prepared it.

Iraq, Bobert, was created in the early part of the 1920's, Kuwait has NEVER been part of Iraq (or Ieaq, come to think of it)

Have a nice day.