"And where are the threads complaining about these? I hear a deafening silence on the part of those against the use of torture..."

i'm so sick of this type of moronic justification of american abuse and torture practices. since you hear so much silence on these other countries torture tactics, let me shout this at you...

THE REASON I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT TORTURE IN OTHER COUNTRIES IS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A VOTE THERE. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT ME. ON THE OTHER HAND, IN AMERICA I AM A CITIZEN WITH VOTING RIGHTS AND AM APPALLED BY THESE CROOKS AND THEIR IMMORAL ACTIONS THAT ARE BEING DONE IN MY NAME AS A CITIZEN. I WANT THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR DEGRADING ACTIONS TO COME OUT AND FOR THEM TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. I WISH PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD DO YOUR DUTY AS CITIZENS TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF OUR LAND AND QUIT TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO JUSTIFY CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR ON THEIR PARTS. FOR THE RECORD, I DISAPPROVE OF THESE TACTICS BEING USED BY OTHER COUNTRIES BUT FEEL THAT THE WAY TO DISCOURAGE THAT IS THRU DOING THINGS IN A MORAL MANNER AND NOT JOINING THEM IN THEIR HEINOUS ACTS.

loud enough for you?