Stillysage, I would venture sarcastically that a graduate english class is not reflective of a huge chunk of society. In no way, shape or form did I suggest that my idea of "conservative" was based on the Cleaver norm you very blithely throw out as your paradigm. I did not use the word traditional, or christian. They would certainly be included under the umbrella of conservative values, but so would the immigrant communities in almost every city in the country, so would most of rural america. You are not an aberation from my norm. I sing, and I write, and I perform folk songs. I've never voted for a republican in my life, but, I profoundly respect people's right to vote for whom they please. I can't enter their hearts like you so ably do and proclaim their "gullability." I imagine most of them in a different place than you, with different responsibilities, and probably, a different mind-set, thankfully.